Re: PROOF: NASA Implicated in Global Warming Cover-Up

by garyd on Tue 01 Dec 2009, 3:22 am

No lizzy we aren't destroying the planet by using oil and oil isn't the only source for most things just the cheapest one. We haven't currently the capability of destroying the planet.

US untapped oil reserves alone dwarf those of most Arab countries.

by lizzy8203 on Tue 01 Dec 2009, 5:20 pm

Think of the destruction oil spills have caused alone...just saying if we put the technology that we already have out there, we could do much better. I watched a show that was using the chemical in toothpaste (very cheap) to put in paint for houses that collected solar energy...anyway I'm getting off subject in this thread, and I don't think we are going to agree anytime soon.

by **J.B.** on Wed 02 Dec 2009, 1:18 am

If you think an oil spill is destructive, you should see a volcano eruption!

One volcano releases more toxic chemicals and gasses into the air than all of the combined machinery of all mankind from the industrial revolution to the present day, x1,000!

Check the NASA pics below of Mt. Etna. IN the first one, the fluffy dome is 70,000 feet in the air (almost 14 miles tall)!

In the second pic, you are viewing the earth from 160 miles in space, looking down.

Toxic debris from volcanos can be found 10,000 miles away, and even sprinkled on the surface of Antarctic ice. Volcanos can also wipe out not only entire eco-systems, but billions of fish, and even in a few cases hundreds of thousands of people. And if a volcano ever goes off under water, for example in the Atlantic Ocean, it can create a tidal wave that could (theoretically) kill everyone on the East Coast of the United States, as far inland as 30 miles.

by **J.B.** on Wed 02 Dec 2009, 2:30 am

http://fto.co.za/news/media-blackout-climategate-real-end-un-arrest-al-gore-2009112915900.html

The BIGGEST ATTEMPTED/ partially succesful HEIST in history is the literal global conspiracy attempted by a few dozen scientists and political contacts connected to Al Gore, and other "globalists", to shape the face of the world through Global Carbon Taxing of every industrialized nation (and eventually the citizens of those nations). Even the TARP heist of Wall Street, with all its golden toilets and $87K office rugs, cannot compare to this.

Too dramatic? Off base?

Fine. You describe it then.

A couple of dozen scientists have just had their scam blown wide open, on the website, WIKILEAKS, when their private emails were hacked, revealing an intricate, coordinated effort to alter huge volumes of data related to global climate change. Those emails- now verified by a handful of reluctant media sources who could no longer hide it- include elaborate plans to discredit any scientist that did not agree with Al Gore, and his main line.

So why can we declare mainstream media "dead"?

Simple.

It has now surfaced that the BBC (and possibly other news sources) recieved these explosive emails as many as 5 WEEKS prior to the release of the emails on WIKILEAKS.COM., and decided to "cover them up". Among the emails recieved: instructions to delete incriminating evidence, and destroy whatever could be viewed as damaging to the Anthropomorphic Global Warming agenda (i.e. Al Gore & Friends' Global agenda).

After the story of the hacked emails finally surfaced, most of the entrenched mainstream media outlets decided to cover the story, focusing ON THE INVESTIGATION INTO THE IDENTITY OF THE LEAKERS, instead of the hoax being perpetrated on us all!

Most US News outlets have followed apparently similar approaches.

In my opinion, it has NEVER been more obvious that the bulk of "mainstream media" are little more than coordinated, wholly owned subsidiaries of the various private interests that have applied their wealth and considerable collective intellects towards manipulating what can best be described as the entire civilized world.

It would sound crazy if it weren't blatantly staring us in the face.

Someone please slap me and tell me I just flat out missed a huge chunk of the story that everyone else is apparently aware of that I missed. Otherwise, I've just come to the conclusion that the past 15-20 years of Global Warming nonsense (which is still being peddled to my own children in Elementary School) is not just a runaway "idea" borne of a few errors made by some good hearted environmentalists. Rather, it is the brainchild of a cluster of ENRON- KEN LAY- BERNIE MADOFF criminals intent on doing God-Knows-What with trillions of Carbon Tax Dollars, along with Oil Company Executives determined to drive Coal and any other competition out of business.

Do we feel screwed yet?

by garyd on Wed 02 Dec 2009, 2:38 am

JB Not yet but only because it hasn't worked thus far.

Lizzy the price of oil would drop substantially if we'd simply drill hear and drill now. On top of which we reduce the number of ocean bound oil spills into the bargain. By the way the ecological damage from oil spills is substantially lower then the ecological damage from mining the steel necessary to make wind turbines.

And lets not forget the chief soure of hydrogen should we ever get hydrogen fuel cell technology up and running will be those same oil wells.

by **J.B.** on Wed 02 Dec 2009, 2:59 pm

Can you believe the media blackout on this story?

by lizzy8203 on Wed 02 Dec 2009, 5:01 pm

I really can't believe the media blackout on this bc I would not have a clue about it if I did not get on here.
Like I said I am not going to be convinced that this is the best energy source we can find, but they have gone really far with this...and all for more money.

by Tedurur on Wed 02 Dec 2009, 8:24 pm

Hehe, if you think you have a media blackout in the US then you should see the swedish one...Its amazing, but still not that suprising. However Lizzy has a point in that we should try and limit our dependence on oil. Not so much for environmental reasons but for limiting our dependence on the cess pool known as the middle east.

by garyd on Wed 02 Dec 2009, 10:10 pm

Ted Ill tell you the same thing I told Lizzy, if we, in the US, would simply begin to dril both on and off shore for already know reserves we would bring oil prices down substantially and destroy the middle eastern oil hegemony into the bargain.

by **J.B.** on Thu 03 Dec 2009, 1:31 pm

I agree with you, Tedurur, and others who mention getting OFF of oil.

It is a MUST. We have to get off of oil as a primary energy source.

And the sad thing is there are SO many options about doing so.

But the problem is MONEY and GOVERNMENT REVENUE.

In the USA, over $.80 per GALLON of fuel purchased gets sent to Government coffers. On top of that, oil company profits- as a whole- get taxed heavily, so for every gallon of fuel, the government gets to double-dip on that as tax income. Revenue streams from the oil industry are enormous. And then, again, the highly paid oil company employees get their incomes taxed, yet a third time.

This is sort of like how military personnel get paid WITH TAX DOLLARS, and then a portion of their pay gets withheld because of income taxes; the government "double dips".

So, even though we can make a hydrogen powered car that emits oxygen and water as the only byproducts, and even though fuel for it would be cheap and nearly limitless, we do not see innovation in that field because Hydrogen powered cars would destroy millions of jobs, and hundreds of billions, if not trillions of dollars invested in the oil industry.

by garyd on Fri 04 Dec 2009, 5:30 am

Why there is plenty of oil we just have to drill for it.

by lizzy8203 on Fri 04 Dec 2009, 7:20 pm

Well I do agree, if we are going to use it...we might as well use our own, it does make more since.

by Richard Cranium on Sat 05 Dec 2009, 6:58 am

The fact that people have not yet bet rounded up wholesale and thrown into jail concerning this matter is disheartening to say the least.

Its the smoking gun of the biggest scam in the history of the world.

Its too late. The globalist have won.

Nothing will come of this. Wait and see. They may fry one or two little fish, that will be all.

Meanwhile Al Gore the global warming whore will still be raking in massive profits.

I love that song KILL THEM ALL.

by garyd on Sat 05 Dec 2009, 9:26 pm

What charge would you prefer to be lodged? The only thing I've been able to come up with is attempted fraud.

The first clue that this people weren't on the up and up was back in the nineties when they insisted that we needed to change the satelite instruments because -now get this - the data that was being collected didn't match their models. After that was when they gave their material over for peer review but would not include the raw data.

by **J.B.** on Tue 08 Dec 2009, 9:28 pm

Computer "Glitch" Caused Scientists To Underestimate Ice Covered Areas By 500,000 km²

(The entire State of California is only 420,000 km²).

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601110&sid=aIe9swvOqwIY

A glitch in satellite sensors caused scientists to underestimate the extent of Arctic sea ice by 500,000 square kilometers (193,000 square miles), a California- size area, the U.S. National Snow and Ice Data Center said.

The error, due to a problem called “sensor drift,” began in early January and caused a slowly growing underestimation of sea ice extent until mid-February. That’s when “puzzled readers” alerted the NSIDC about data showing ice-covered areas as stretches of open ocean, the Boulder, Colorado-based group said on its Web site.

“Sensor drift, although infrequent, does occasionally occur and it is one of the things that we account for during quality- control measures prior to archiving the data,” the center said. “Although we believe that data prior to early January are reliable, we will conduct a full quality check.’’

by Alex on Tue 08 Dec 2009, 9:32 pm

Wait a minute, what about all those pictures of floating Polar bears, clinging to all that broken ice?

You mean that wasn't true?

by garyd on Thu 10 Dec 2009, 6:36 am

If you don't mind watching the same polar bear over and over again...

By the way polar bears seldom drown and the ice along the edges of the arctic had been melting every spring and summer for the last several dozen millenia. I think they have an idea how to deal with it by now.