Undercover cops beat the shit out of innnocent teen
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Undercover cops beat the shit out of innnocent teen
Holy shit - these pigs fucked this kid up.
When 18-year-old Pittsburgh resident Jordan Miles was surrounded by three disreputable-looking men on the way to his grandmother’s house, he did the entirely sensible thing: He fled, thinking that the marauders were criminals.
Unfortunately for Miles, his assailants weren’t common criminals, but rather the state-employed variety — undercover police officers. Street criminals would likely have left him alone. The police not only severely beat him but — in keeping with standard procedure — accused him of several supposed crimes, including “loitering,” “resisting arrest,” and “aggravated assault” (presumably by staining the fists of his assailants with his blood).
When the undercover officers materialized, the honor student ran three steps before slipping and falling to the sidewalk, whereupon the heroic guardians of the public weal attacked him with a stun gun and beat him with fists, knees, and a branch — and tore out a huge chunk of hair for good measure. (See photos of the beating victim here.)
The hired thugs claimed in a criminal report that the 5′6″, 150-pound viola player looked “suspicious” and appeared to be armed with a “heavy object”; the weapon in question proved to be a bottle of Mountain Dew, an admittedly deadly concoction but one that is dangerous only to those who consume it.
As is usually the case in incidents of this kind, the assailants described their assault in self-serving terms.
The report claims that the tax-engorged bullies identified themselves as police, a morally inconsequential detail disputed by the victim. When Miles tried to free himself, the officers “delivered 2-3 closed fist strikes to Miles’ head/face with still no effect,” and then inflicted a “knee strike to Miles’ head causing him to momentarily stop resisting,” so that handcuffs could be slapped on the victim’s wrists. The victim later recalled that “I thought I was going to die” beneath the courageous ministrations of Pittsburgh’s, ahem, “finest.”
All of this abuse was justified, the report insists, because it was used only “to subdue the teenager as he tried to get away,” in the words of a CNN summary. A rapist who beats a would-be victim can make exactly the same claim, of course.
The supposed men responsible for this crime have been “punished” by being re-assigned to duty as uniformed officers. Their identity, unlike that of the victim, is being withheld from the public.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/048342.html
When 18-year-old Pittsburgh resident Jordan Miles was surrounded by three disreputable-looking men on the way to his grandmother’s house, he did the entirely sensible thing: He fled, thinking that the marauders were criminals.
Unfortunately for Miles, his assailants weren’t common criminals, but rather the state-employed variety — undercover police officers. Street criminals would likely have left him alone. The police not only severely beat him but — in keeping with standard procedure — accused him of several supposed crimes, including “loitering,” “resisting arrest,” and “aggravated assault” (presumably by staining the fists of his assailants with his blood).
When the undercover officers materialized, the honor student ran three steps before slipping and falling to the sidewalk, whereupon the heroic guardians of the public weal attacked him with a stun gun and beat him with fists, knees, and a branch — and tore out a huge chunk of hair for good measure. (See photos of the beating victim here.)
The hired thugs claimed in a criminal report that the 5′6″, 150-pound viola player looked “suspicious” and appeared to be armed with a “heavy object”; the weapon in question proved to be a bottle of Mountain Dew, an admittedly deadly concoction but one that is dangerous only to those who consume it.
As is usually the case in incidents of this kind, the assailants described their assault in self-serving terms.
The report claims that the tax-engorged bullies identified themselves as police, a morally inconsequential detail disputed by the victim. When Miles tried to free himself, the officers “delivered 2-3 closed fist strikes to Miles’ head/face with still no effect,” and then inflicted a “knee strike to Miles’ head causing him to momentarily stop resisting,” so that handcuffs could be slapped on the victim’s wrists. The victim later recalled that “I thought I was going to die” beneath the courageous ministrations of Pittsburgh’s, ahem, “finest.”
All of this abuse was justified, the report insists, because it was used only “to subdue the teenager as he tried to get away,” in the words of a CNN summary. A rapist who beats a would-be victim can make exactly the same claim, of course.
The supposed men responsible for this crime have been “punished” by being re-assigned to duty as uniformed officers. Their identity, unlike that of the victim, is being withheld from the public.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/048342.html
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i read about it on CNN. Extremely fucked up. Those pigs need prison terms.
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I concur. Rotten apples here.

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There is an investigation into this. It may be a bit premature to rush to judgement. Think for a minute. You're a cop in a rather disreputable part of time and you see a man wearing a jacket not to different than what most of the gang bangers in the neigborhood wear and there is obviously an object in his pocket. You have no idea what that object is but in this neighbor it may well be a gun and when you tell him to stop he takes off. How do you respond?
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That little kid had the ass whipping coming to him.
Back in the old days, every teenager got an ass whipping for no good reason, just to make them respect the law.
Even if he didn't do anything wrong, this ass whooping will be talked about for quite some time, and will discourage others from committing crimes.
This was a pre-emptive strike.
Back in the old days, every teenager got an ass whipping for no good reason, just to make them respect the law.
Even if he didn't do anything wrong, this ass whooping will be talked about for quite some time, and will discourage others from committing crimes.
This was a pre-emptive strike.
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Re: Undercover cops beat the shit out of innnocent teen
garyd, you live in a neighborhood where people are beaten up to steal their shoes and find yourself confronted by three adult males. What would you do?

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Talk first always. If you don't know what the hell they want you don't know whether or not to run. Everyone in this little melodrama made assumptions that they probably shouldn't have made.
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True, the cops assumed he was a gang banger. He assumed he was fighting for his life. Fight or flight, is a natural response.

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Natural if you are an ocelot. Stupid if you are able to communicate something other than the nearest food resource, sexual readiness, or territorial status. We have brains and a vocabulary for a reason.
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Re: Undercover cops beat the shit out of innnocent teen
I still don't think a black kid walking down the street with something heavy looking in his jacket pocket should qualify for him being even approached by police for 'fitting the profile of a gang banger'. Trully qualified cops for something like that would know gang bangers when they see them (signs, colors, tats, etc), not have to approach them in plain clothes to check it out.
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Why? Colors aren't always on dislplay especially if you are in a different area than your home turf and tats may not be visible under a jacket. Or are you trying to make the case thatcops should have xray vision.
Now understand something if the cops didn't identify themselves then they screwed up big time and will be looking for a different line of work after they get out of jail for the assault and battery beef.
Now understand something if the cops didn't identify themselves then they screwed up big time and will be looking for a different line of work after they get out of jail for the assault and battery beef.
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What I'm trying to say that I highly doubt they had reasonable evidence to suspect he was 'gang banger' or of any conceivable danger to the peace. Had he fit the profile of someone they were looking for, or was wearing gang colors, or flashing gang signs, or sported known gang affiliated tatoos, that would be a different story. But a nigger in a jacket walking down the street with 'something in his pocket' isn't going to fucking cut it.
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Here's another wonderful story about another plain-cloths officer failing to identify himself -
Last July 20, two men engaged in a brief altercation in Kasota, Minnesota. One of them was unarmed and wearing nothing but swim trunks. The other, dressed in regular clothes, was carrying a gun, which he used to pump several rounds into the first man’s chest at point-blank range.
This killing of an unarmed man was witnessed by more than a dozen people, all of whom — except, apparently, one — described it as undisguised murder. Yet a grand jury has refused to indict the killer, who — as should be obvious to any reasonably observant person — was a police officer.
The victim, 24-year-old stay-at-home father Tyler Heilman, had just ended a brief swim in a nearby lake and was clad only in swim trunks when he was stopped by Deputy Todd Waldron of the LeSeur County Sheriff’s Office for an alleged traffic violation.
The encounter in the parking lot of an apartment complex quickly became testy and degenerated into a physical altercation, one that some witnesses say Waldron — who was “working undercover” — was losing.
Kris Hoehn, a childhood friend of Heilman who witnessed the incident, recalls that his friend confronted the unidentified man who had been tailgating him in a Dodge Durango. To Hoehn it seemed apparent that his friend was unsure of the identity of the individual in street clothes who presumptuously demanded identification, and he understandably fought back when that unidentified stalker grabbed him by the shoulders.
Waldron was reportedly investigating an “unrelated matter” when he turned his lethal attention to Heilman. The young father might have suspected that he was being followed by a common criminal. If that had been the case, he most likely would still be alive.
According to witnesses, after his “good enough for government `work’” unarmed combat skills proved inadequate to subdue Heilman, Waldron pulled his gun and shot Heilman at least three, and perhaps four, times in the chest. He didn’t identify himself as a police officer or issue a warning of any kind.
At the time, Heilman was backing away with his hands raised as if in surrender.
One of the rounds fired by Waldron damaged a local apartment, most likely putting the life of yet another innocent person at risk.
Among the eyewitnesses to the killing were Jolene Manderfield and her children, who reside in the apartment building and were in the parking lot when Waldron shot Heilman. Jolene’s husband Scott heard the gunshots and raced to the scene to administer CPR in a futile attempt to save the life of the young father.
“When I ran outside, [Waldron] had his gun out,” recalled Scott Manderfield. “I asked who he was and he said he was a cop. He told me to help him flip Tyler over, then he said, `What have I done?’ He was running around frantic.”
Scott and Jolene Manderfield, along with their children Brooke and Eric, testified before a grand jury considering an indictment against Waldron. Eric, 13, was a passenger in Heilman’s vehicle and witnessed the execution-style murder at close range.
After hearing testimony from more than twenty witnesses, the grand jury decided — and wasn’t the suspense just unbearable? — that no charges would be filed against the killer. This permitted Andrew Johnson, assistant attorney for Anoka County, to claim — apparently in all seriousness — that the deputy acted in self-defense when he gunned down an unarmed, barely clothed man who was backing away with his hands raised.
Johnson claims that the grand jury was persuaded by a conveniently anonymous witness who “happened to be driving by and … saw it,” and whose account “is very similar to what the officer said and it contradicts what the witnesses at the scene said.” Johnson refused to provide details of both Waldron’s account and that of the mystery witness, promising that his office “will have more on that very soon,” albeit not “next week.”
Chances are pretty good that this conveniently anonymous and corroborative witness was a fellow member of Waldron’s local fraternity of officially sanctioned bully-boys: Waldron has acknowledged that he called for “backup” as he stalked Heilman to the parking lot. This would explain how such a helpful witness just happened to be “driving by” at the time of the killing, and why grand jurors would defer to his account rather than those of witnesses much closer to the action.
“He went from playing down at the river, living the life, to being shot down in what is practically his own backyard,” Kirs Hoehn said of his murdered friend. “He was a 24-year-old guy with a young son,” a 3-year-old named Haydin.
Immediately after the grand jury’s decision, Waldron’s paid vacation (aka “administrative leave”) was brought to an end and he was returned to the force with his license to murder fully restored.
Sheriff Dave Glisinski told reporters that “it’s great to have him back. He’s a professional investigator and a key to the force.” That comment reveals much about the nature of Sheriff Glisinski’s “force” and its standards of “professionalism.”
Whatever else can be said about Waldron, he is a living argument on behalf of the proposition that government police are consistently a greater menace to life, liberty, and property than private criminals could ever be.
Last July 20, two men engaged in a brief altercation in Kasota, Minnesota. One of them was unarmed and wearing nothing but swim trunks. The other, dressed in regular clothes, was carrying a gun, which he used to pump several rounds into the first man’s chest at point-blank range.
This killing of an unarmed man was witnessed by more than a dozen people, all of whom — except, apparently, one — described it as undisguised murder. Yet a grand jury has refused to indict the killer, who — as should be obvious to any reasonably observant person — was a police officer.
The victim, 24-year-old stay-at-home father Tyler Heilman, had just ended a brief swim in a nearby lake and was clad only in swim trunks when he was stopped by Deputy Todd Waldron of the LeSeur County Sheriff’s Office for an alleged traffic violation.
The encounter in the parking lot of an apartment complex quickly became testy and degenerated into a physical altercation, one that some witnesses say Waldron — who was “working undercover” — was losing.
Kris Hoehn, a childhood friend of Heilman who witnessed the incident, recalls that his friend confronted the unidentified man who had been tailgating him in a Dodge Durango. To Hoehn it seemed apparent that his friend was unsure of the identity of the individual in street clothes who presumptuously demanded identification, and he understandably fought back when that unidentified stalker grabbed him by the shoulders.
Waldron was reportedly investigating an “unrelated matter” when he turned his lethal attention to Heilman. The young father might have suspected that he was being followed by a common criminal. If that had been the case, he most likely would still be alive.
According to witnesses, after his “good enough for government `work’” unarmed combat skills proved inadequate to subdue Heilman, Waldron pulled his gun and shot Heilman at least three, and perhaps four, times in the chest. He didn’t identify himself as a police officer or issue a warning of any kind.
At the time, Heilman was backing away with his hands raised as if in surrender.
One of the rounds fired by Waldron damaged a local apartment, most likely putting the life of yet another innocent person at risk.
Among the eyewitnesses to the killing were Jolene Manderfield and her children, who reside in the apartment building and were in the parking lot when Waldron shot Heilman. Jolene’s husband Scott heard the gunshots and raced to the scene to administer CPR in a futile attempt to save the life of the young father.
“When I ran outside, [Waldron] had his gun out,” recalled Scott Manderfield. “I asked who he was and he said he was a cop. He told me to help him flip Tyler over, then he said, `What have I done?’ He was running around frantic.”
Scott and Jolene Manderfield, along with their children Brooke and Eric, testified before a grand jury considering an indictment against Waldron. Eric, 13, was a passenger in Heilman’s vehicle and witnessed the execution-style murder at close range.
After hearing testimony from more than twenty witnesses, the grand jury decided — and wasn’t the suspense just unbearable? — that no charges would be filed against the killer. This permitted Andrew Johnson, assistant attorney for Anoka County, to claim — apparently in all seriousness — that the deputy acted in self-defense when he gunned down an unarmed, barely clothed man who was backing away with his hands raised.
Johnson claims that the grand jury was persuaded by a conveniently anonymous witness who “happened to be driving by and … saw it,” and whose account “is very similar to what the officer said and it contradicts what the witnesses at the scene said.” Johnson refused to provide details of both Waldron’s account and that of the mystery witness, promising that his office “will have more on that very soon,” albeit not “next week.”
Chances are pretty good that this conveniently anonymous and corroborative witness was a fellow member of Waldron’s local fraternity of officially sanctioned bully-boys: Waldron has acknowledged that he called for “backup” as he stalked Heilman to the parking lot. This would explain how such a helpful witness just happened to be “driving by” at the time of the killing, and why grand jurors would defer to his account rather than those of witnesses much closer to the action.
“He went from playing down at the river, living the life, to being shot down in what is practically his own backyard,” Kirs Hoehn said of his murdered friend. “He was a 24-year-old guy with a young son,” a 3-year-old named Haydin.
Immediately after the grand jury’s decision, Waldron’s paid vacation (aka “administrative leave”) was brought to an end and he was returned to the force with his license to murder fully restored.
Sheriff Dave Glisinski told reporters that “it’s great to have him back. He’s a professional investigator and a key to the force.” That comment reveals much about the nature of Sheriff Glisinski’s “force” and its standards of “professionalism.”
Whatever else can be said about Waldron, he is a living argument on behalf of the proposition that government police are consistently a greater menace to life, liberty, and property than private criminals could ever be.
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Re: Undercover cops beat the shit out of innnocent teen
In all of these incidents you probably have people who shouldn't be cops.
Guess what, in virtually every police force in the country there are people who are there to assert their authority. The job attracts people to it for that rush. These things have happened in the past and will happen in the future. No matter how many psych tests they give prior to employment, they will still manage to get in.
The same with pedophiles, who manage to get jobs as teachers, clergy, choir leaders, baby sitters, etc.. Wherever they can have contact with potential victims.
All we as a society can do is try to keep these people out of these power positions as best we can.
Guess what, in virtually every police force in the country there are people who are there to assert their authority. The job attracts people to it for that rush. These things have happened in the past and will happen in the future. No matter how many psych tests they give prior to employment, they will still manage to get in.
The same with pedophiles, who manage to get jobs as teachers, clergy, choir leaders, baby sitters, etc.. Wherever they can have contact with potential victims.
All we as a society can do is try to keep these people out of these power positions as best we can.

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Re: Undercover cops beat the shit out of innnocent teen
In any case cops should not assume anything...they are suppose to act professionally so not to cost taxpayers money on lawsuits. Our tax money is what employs them, we give them tasers for a reason...in this case I think that tasing him should have been enough...regardless of what he did/didnt do. Cops dont have the right in any case to act like idiots...we are to be tried before proven guilty and they didnt even give this kid time to explain himself. Their actions give good cops a bad name...and they add little respect to the force by acting unprofessionally. Some people deserve to have the shit beaten out of them...but this is not the choice of the cops to make expecially with so little to go on. In no way did this kid deserve to be beaten so severely over bullshit assumptions. If the cops were in uniform it would have been a completly different situation...but he didnt know who they were and in this bad of a neighborhood you cant blame him for running...he obviously had no other reason to besides the fact that he feared the men..he had no warrants, no gun, no drugs...these cops acted like jackasses, they do not need to be on the force they proved that they are incapable of holding that title and responsibility. Think if it were your kid in the icu for cops acting based upon very unintelligent/exaggerated assumptions. They could have handled this situation in so many different ways that would not involve beating the complete shit out of an innocent kid.

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Re: Undercover cops beat the shit out of innnocent teen
Shooting a dude in a swim suit is way over the top I don't care if you are getting your dumb ass kicked. Under cover or not if you are going to hassle someone show your damn badge or at least id yourself so they know who they are dealing with.
If you are undercover what the hell are you doing chasing down a minor taffic beef anyway? You call the uniforms report the incident and let them worry about it. There seems to me to be a hell of alot more to that one than what we are getting...
If you are undercover what the hell are you doing chasing down a minor taffic beef anyway? You call the uniforms report the incident and let them worry about it. There seems to me to be a hell of alot more to that one than what we are getting...
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I don't agree with calling all police officers "pigs."
But yes this story is horrendous.
But yes this story is horrendous.
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